Yep…Another Cook Kit…

I know it has been a while since I posted here on my blog, so I knew that when I made my next post it needed to be on something that I have been having fun with lately…and as you may have guessed, yep…it’s on another cook kit. I don’t know why but the last few months I have been interested in different cook kits. Heck, I even have 2 stove systems on my Christmas List for my wife! (And that’s only because I took some off…) So, in this post I wanted to talk a little about a cook kit that I have put together…

Lately I have become interested in the beer can cook pots. At the moment I have 2 of the Heine cook pots. The first is a full-size can which simply has the top removed using a safety can opener so that the top can be used as the lid. This is my lightest weight cook pot I have and I plan to use it with my Esbit stove, as outlined in a prior post: My Ultralight Cooking System. The second can I actually sent back to Tinny at Minibulldesigns to have him convert it to a DBC (Dutch Beer Can) cook pot. This is the pot that I have in the cook kit I am writing about today. (And for those that are thinking about grams…this pot is not for you. Neither the pot, nor the cook kit as a whole is considered “UL” at least as far as I am concerned.)

All fired up

As well, before I get started I want to add that I was inspired to put this kit together because of a YouTube video by Raul Perez (AKA: Water Monkey) a little while back. In the video he showed off a cook kit that he got from Smokeeater908. What intrigued me for some reason is the container that went around the cook pot as well as the cozy that he had made for it. The container reminded me of the containers that Kool-Aid and Lemonade comes in. So, I headed to Wal-Mart and scoped it out…and guess what? Score! However, there were 2 different containers to choose from: Great Value and the real-deal Kool-Aid. In the end I found that the original Kool-Aid container was a perfect match for a Foster’s can Cook Pot. However, the Kool-Aid container was just a bit too narrow for my MBD DBC Cook Pot to fit in…so I continued the search. In the end I found that a Smart Sense Lemonade Drink Mix from K-Mart was the perfect fit for the DBC Cook Pot.

But that wasn’t all…I also liked the cozy that fit around the container. So, I journeyed to Lowe’s and picked up a roll of Reflectix and some aluminum tape then came home and made a number of pot cozy’s. I now have cozy’s for most of my cook pots…

So now that I had the container, the cozy, the cook pot and everything else, I decided to make a little video to show it all off…

So, just to hit all the specs again:

  • Cozy for Lid: 0.3 oz or 8 gm
  • Cozy for Container: 0.4 oz or 13 gm
  • Container Lid: 0.7 oz or 20 gm
  • Container: 1.1 oz or 31 gm
  • DBC Cook Pot Lid: 0.5 oz or 13 gm
  • DBC Cook Pot w/ Silicone Lip Guard: 2.3 oz or 64 gm
  • DIY Wire Pot Stand: 0.4 oz or 12 gm
  • MBD Mini Atomic Stove w/ Carbon Felt in Ziploc: 0.7 oz or 19 gm
  • Windscreen w/ Paper Clip: 0.6 oz or 17 gm
  • Small Lighter: 0.4 oz or 10 gm
  • ZPacks Small Cuben Fiber Stuff Sack: 0.1 oz or 3 gm

So, for all you non-mathematicians out there, here are the added sums of each weight measurement:

  • 7.5 oz
  • 210 gm

However, what is interesting is that when I put the entire kit all packaged together on my scales, I get a little something different:

  • 7.4 oz
  • 211 gm

Contents packed inside the DBC

So, go figure…either way, I am sure that most UL’ers out there will scoff at either of the weights. But, in my defense, the point of this cook kit is not to be the lightest, but rather for me, an interesting and fun system. I like the way all the pieces of this kit works together, as well as each individual part of this system. Who doesn’t love cuben fiber? Who doesn’t enjoy going out and spending just a couple of dollars on something in an everyday store and converting it to something interesting, and useful? And who doesn’t enjoy those classic items (such as what the Heine cook pot has now become)? Of course there are peeps out there that may not agree with these sentiments, but hey, this is mine…not theirs…

Anyway, I hope that you have enjoyed the video and the cook kit. I know I am. But I am not done. As from the beginning of the post, I have been having fun with cook kits and there are a few other videos I plan to do sometime in the future with them. As well, after more uses I want to do more specific videos on the DBC Cook Pot and the Mini Atomic. They each deserve them. I am also waiting on some of the rings for the Foster’s pots from both Smokeeater908 as well as from Tinny at MBD. So, until then…

Thanks for your time. If you have any questions or comments, please feel free to leave them at the bottom of this post.

All packed up and ready to go!

~Stick~

About Stick

My blog is essentially a record of my hiking career. Through it, I, and others, can see how I have evolved from a heavy weight backpacker, to a smarter, more efficient, lightweight backpacker. Through the use of video, still photos, and of course writing, one can see my progression, as well as check out some of the places I hike, and not to mention some cool, lightweight gear options. For me, my blog is a journal, but for others, I hope that it is an interactive learning tool to aid them in their own progression towards lightweight backpacking.
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19 Responses to Yep…Another Cook Kit…

  1. Howard Hayden, Unit Commissioner says:

    I just received the carbon fiber lid which has an measured diameter, for inside the cup, of 3.07 in. I used am cartridge case calipers to do the measuring. My REI cup is allegedly a 400 ml titanium with handles with inside diameter of 3.01 inches. I need a lid that fits the REI cup. The outside diameter which one can grasp and not get burned fingers, is not as essential as the need to have the lid recess into the 3.01 in. cylinder of the shape of the cup. I have other lids for my Snow Peak cups which I purchased from minibullcult in Maine, but they do not have the 3 in. size that I need. One of my Boy Scout Instructors and ‘guru’ of ultralight backpacking, recommended your company to me. FYI, while camping in the wild lands, I use the 600 ml. cup for morning coffee…that works! I enjoy cereal mixes in the same 600 ml. cup. This all works somehow. Please forgive my confusion and misunderstanding about lid size. We can exchange lids as you believe appropriate. I have your mailing envelope and the lid is light; I am a Scout Commissioner with a very long and honorable history, so fear not being paid for any extra costs in the exchange.
    I am Howard Hayden, in Edmonds

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    • Stick says:

      Howard,

      I’ll admit, I’m confused. I am not a company, so I cannot exchange your lid if that is what you’re asking?

      ~Stick~

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    • Howard Hayden, Unit Commissioner says:

      I thought that you were the distributor for the Ruta Locura products. Sorry for the confusion. I shall try to contact them directly. Thanks for responding and for your patience. Howard

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    • Stick says:

      Haha, no problem! And I hope your issue gets resolved.

      ~Stick~

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  2. Michael says:

    Cool write up, Stick. This area of my set up drives me nuts. I’m always tinkering with my cooking set up. I can’t seem to settle on one set up that I prefer over the others. Just made a wood stove and an esbit stove the other day and will give them a try soon (I hope). Keep up the good posts.

    Michael
    (SoCal Mike)

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    • Stick says:

      I can’t seem to settle on one set up that I prefer over the others.

      This! I agree with this so much. My problem though is that I like too many of them. I am sure that there are those out there with more set-ups than I have, but I have a few, and constantly getting more. Yesterday a ring came in for my Foster’s can, so there is another set-up (check out my post on it today). As well, I am expecting another ring from Tinny for another set-up. Then there are the other 2 stoves I have on my Christmas list…

      I also set up an esbit set-up a few weeks back. I like it pretty well, but have only used it in the field on one trip…

      Anyway, good luck with your set-up and thanks for stopping by and commenting.

      ~Stick~

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    • Michael says:

      Hi, Stick. Just a quick follow-up. I tried the Esbit set up at home. Works nice and I like it very much. But I was wondering…you have used one of those tri-wing stoves that hold a solid fuel tab, right? Does that stand hold your 10 cm Imusa mug? And, when it’s all folded up, does it fit inside the mug for storage?

      Michael
      (SoCal Mike)

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    • Stick says:

      Michael,

      Sorry it took me so long to get back to ya…

      I just went and checked the fit. Short answer, yes, it will fit on the stand. Longer answer, it can be a bit finicky. The edge of the cup/pot hits the stove where the support legs roll out near the top which makes the cup/pot want to slide down into the groove on 2 of the sides. It would probably be more stable with the weight of the water in the cup/pot. But, like I said, it will work and I would use it, but I would be sure to be careful when setting it up, as well as keeping a safe distance while doing other things when the stove is going. Of course though, this should be practiced with any stove, IMO.

      As far as will it stow inside the 10 cm cup, that is an easy one, yes. Very well. The stove will actually lay down flat (when folded) in the bottom of the cup.

      Again, I apologize it took me so long to get back to your question, but I hope it helps.

      ~Stick~

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    • Michael says:

      That’s a big help. Thanks, Stick. I’m having fun experimenting with Esbit and some different set ups. Just trying to find a set up that involves one piece and is stable, but will hopefully incorporate my Imusa mug–I really like that thing and don’t want to spend $ on a new mug. Thanks, again.

      Michael
      (SoCal Mike)

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  3. Gizmo Joe says:

    Long time no post haha……………….Glad to see your new cook kit, who cares if this set inst ultralight we all hike our own hike, and I think it’s a cool setup you got going. I also came up with a little variation of my cook kit too, I am now using a single wall 600 Snow peak mug with a homemade lid, a Fozzils kids solo mug for my bowl and cup, and a outdoor brand from Wal-Mart spork, its a good little light set up at around 4oz plus whatever stove setup you choose. I got to try it out on my last A.T. hike 2 weeks ago it worked out well. Looking forward to you next post, and good man for spending more time with your family!

    -Gizmo

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    • Stick says:

      Thanks Gizmo for keeping up and commenting. It has been a while, and I appreciate it. I gotta admit though, it has been pretty nice the last few weeks just observing and causally commenting here on there on different forums, blogs or videos. And like I said, I am not done with the blog, but I am going to be taking it a little slower for a while…I dunno, maybe it is the winter setting in…

      Anyway, sounds like you have a nice cook set. I have a 700 ml BC cook pot that I recently pulled the handles off of. I think I will like it better that way (they got way hot anyway) and of course it did save me 0.5 oz! 🙂

      Thanks again,

      ~Stick~

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  4. Great write up and a good DIY kit you made! Thanks for the shout out. Hope you liked my entire epic trip series I posted. Never thought of the cuben stuff sack idea. I do have a problem with the top reflectix lid comming off when I place it in my pack’s side pocket…. problem solved now! Thanks. Stay gangsta.

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    • Stick says:

      WM,

      I enjoyed every second of all 4 of the videos. One day I am going to have to get up there and do a hike with you… Anyway, with this cook kit it is definitely not lightweight, but I gotta say, when I saw you pulling yours apart, it looked like an interesting system that would just WORK. I haven’t carried this out yet, but I think it will work out just fine… I also have a ring for the Fosters can coming from both Smokeeater908 as well as from Tinny so I will have more to play with by the end of the week too… Also, Zelph should be cutting me a Ridgeline Foster’s can as well…so I will see…

      Anyway, thanks for stopping by and commenting. Keep up the good work man!

      ~Stick~

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    • yeah my system is about 1.6 ounces lighter than yours and it may get lighter. I couldn’t pass on the smokeeater black friday sale on the mini heat and the 12oz cook pot.

      I’m having great results in the reflectix pot grabber. I just wasn’t a fan of the fiberglass wick or the lip guards (I never drink from the can).

      In a nutshell it does work and it’s compact which is what I liked about it so much.

      Say the word on when you want to come up and I’ll make the arrangements to get out there…. just not 2013… brother man’s getting married 😉

      Glad you liked the trip video. I had a BLAST out there… a wee bit cold at night because my sleep system was a little beyond the limits but I knew that and just took a chance so I can play with the Zpacks blast pack.

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    • Stick says:

      Good point about the lip guard. I doubt that I will actually drink from this pot so I should probably ditch it too… I am anxious for those rings to come in as well so I can see what the weight of one of the Foster’s with the ring is. As well, the ridgeline pot from Zelph should be even slightly lighter…

      I have really been interested in the remote feed stoves. I have the M2 that Tinny sells on my list to give a try too. They seem like a practical way to go.

      Just curious, how has your alky stoves performed in the cold conditions you have been experiencing?

      Nice pun on the BLAST with the Blast pack… I will have one of those come next year…

      Congrats on your marriage! Sometime though I will get up that way…

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    • I have the original bongo HNC which seems to be like the M1 (just a wee bit taller). Summer I get 2 cup boils with a little less than 1/2 ounce, 3 season it’s more like 3/4 ounce (fall/spring with temps in the high 30’s to low 50’s). Winter I’m getting about an ounce or a little more for a boil. I’ve noticed it takes a bit longer to boil with the remote feeds. Sleeping with the alcohol to keep it warm I really haven’t noticed much of a difference in cold temps. I’ve come to the conclusion that the remote feeds are heavier than the pressurized stoves and don’t put out as much heat. But what keeps me with them is the ability to keep the fire going with zero effort and the fuel efficiency with them. In the summer I get 8 2 cup boils per 4oz of fuel. Spring/fall I’m getting 5-6 boils. Winter I get 3-4 boils.

      I’m really interested in the mini heat’s capability. Based on observation alone it seems more wick exposed at almost 10 grams less than the M1. Plus I’m curious as to the smaller pot and if 12oz is enough to give me what I need for my FBC meals + clean up. I always like to keep a little bit of hot water for clean up.

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    • Stick says:

      Thanks for the info WM. Interesting to know about the remote feed too. I was a little afraid that the M1 stove that Tinny has may not be quite hot enough, so the M2 seemed to be a bit better. Maybe burns a little hotter than the M1, but not as heavy as the other M stoves.

      I too was tempted by Smokeeater908’s Black Friday offer. And at $40 it was hard not to mention to my wife… 🙂 Heck, even at the now listed $55 it still seems good. I will be interested to see what you think about it.

      I am going to try out a smaller pot as well. I have a Foster’s cut down that will boil 8 oz good, maybe 10 oz if I take it off quick before it boils over. It is based on Tinny’s QMH cook pot. Once the rings I ordered get here I will get it set up. I have some of the 1 cup off-brand Ziploc containers that it fits in quite nice and I have already made a cozy to fit around it. Till then…

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  5. Stephen says:

    Glad to hear you’ve volunteered for being a den leader, that’s an awesome job. Thanks for sharing!

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    • Stick says:

      Stephen,

      So far it has been fun for both of us. This is also my first year dealing with it too…The campouts have been great though!

      ~Stick~

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