First Look at the Klymit Static V Sleeping Pad

A few days ago I came across a long-term review of the Klymit Static V sleeping pad over on HikeLighter.Com. With a fair sense of John’s hiking style and preferences, and reading what he had to say about the pad, I decided that I wanted to try one out. So I went to Amazon.com and placed an order (which came to just under $53, shipped!) and then within a matter of days it was here, in my hands! (Who doesn’t love new gear??!!??) So, here is my first look and initial thoughts on the pad…

Lets start with some specs…both listed and measured…

  • Listed Weight: 18.1 oz (does not specify if this includes stuff sack & repair kit)
  • Measured Weight: 18.6 oz for everything, or 17.9 oz for pad only
  • Listed Length: 72 inches
  • Measured Length (Inflated): 70 inches
  • Listed Width: 23 inches
  • Measured Width: 23 inches, however, the actual air-filled width is 21.5 inches
  • Listed Height: 2.5 inches
  • Measured Height: 2 inches at edges & up to 2.5 inches along center

When looking at the Klymit Static V sleeping pad, I can easily say that it is very unlike many of the other sleeping pads that are on the market today. Rather than taking the straight up horizontal or vertical baffle approach, the guys (& girls?) at Klymit took a different approach… they went “V” on us! Klymit describes the baffle design on the Static V pad as an “ergonomic design.” Here are the benefits of this design that they list on the packaging material:

  1. Comfort: Disperses air to stabilize pad and distribute weight.
  2. Ease of Use: Inflates in approximately 10 breaths.
  3. Warmth: Limits air movement and heat loss.
  4. Durable: 75D Polyester fabric.

So, after doing all the typical weighing, comparing and just fondling, I of course blew the pad up to further check it out. Here are some of my initial thought concerning the above listed benefits:

Comfort
To be honest, at this point it’s (respectfully) hard for me to make a decision as to whether I think that this pad is comfortable or not. However, for what it’s worth, I will say that so far, I don’t think it’s uncomfortable. (And as a reference point, I much prefer horizontal baffles over vertical baffles. As well, I generally like more of a firm pad rather than a squishy pad, although, don’t confuse this with “plush”.)

Comfort vs Design
I feel like the design of this pad does indeed directly relate to the overall comfort of this pad. Most other air pads are generally tubes (baffles) that run either up and down (vertically) or side-to-side (horizontally), but the tubes usually connect on most pads. This pad is obviously different. The baffles on this pad actually zig-zag side-to-side, turning at each edge and then forming a “V” shaped pattern along the center for the full length of this pad. As well, the baffles are not actually touching along the sides of the baffles, but instead, it looks as if the top and bottom materials are welded (?) between each “V” baffle. This actually allows the pad to bend, so when I move around on the pad, the pad actually moves with me rather than being completely static beneath me. This is just different…to me.

Also, when actually measuring the pad’s thickness, I found that my pad is only 2 inches thick on the edges/sides and up to 2.5 inches thick in the middle (when inflated). I found this odd since I expected the sides to be a hair thicker to help keep me centered on the pad. [Thinking out loud…] However , I wonder if when I lie down on the pad, maybe I squish some of that air from the middle and expand/thicken the edges…? I say this because I have noticed that it looks like the edges almost roll up a but when lying on the pad. This may also be due to the channels that run along the sides too…? (Of course this is all speculation so far, except for the measurements of course.)

Ease of Use
According to the instructions, this pad inflates in approximately 10 breaths. On my first go, it took me 11 (so that’s pretty close), which is less than what any of my other pads take to fully inflate (besides my self-inflating pads of course). Also, I will admit, the valve seems to be wider than what is on my other (preferred pad) and this does make it seem like the pad inflates faster and easier. Although, to be fair, I also feel like the “faster and easier inflation” is actually due to the fact that there is less air-filled space in this pad when compared to my other pads.

Durable
This is also something in which I cannot respectfully comment on at this point. All I can say is that my pad of choice is a pad with 30D material and I have yet to pop it… So, I should be pretty good to go with the thicker 75D skin which is on both sides of this pad. Only time and use will tell…

**Air Pad Rant ~ ANY air pad can pop for lots of different reasons, so in my opinion, when using ANY air pad, one must take care to clear the area before using the pad, and ALWAYS carry the appropriate repair kit. However, despite proper care and preparation, accidents do happen, so always BE PREPARED to possibly sleep directly on the ground when carrying an air pad**

Other than these “benefits” there are a few other topics I would like to address/discuss concerning this pad”

Size
This topic is actually broken down into 2 categories, “Inflated Size” and “Packed Size.” I will start off by discussing “Packed Size” first.

Packed Size: As can be seen in the picture above, the Klymit Static V sleeping pad packs down pretty small and is actually just a hair smaller than my regular size Original NeoAir. However, I have not been packing my sleeping pads rolled up like this inside my pack for a while now. Since the beginning of this year, I have been using frameless packs and I have just been folding my pads and using them as a frame inside my pack (yes, even my NeoAir, and I plan to do the same with the Klymit pad too). With this in mind, packed size is not an issue to me at all, however, I did find it interesting that the Klymit Static V pad does indeed pack just a little smaller than the NeoAir. However, to be fair, in the picture above the NeoAir has been packed and unpacked numerous times for almost 2 years now, whereas the Klymit Static V pad was still rolled straight from the factory. I wonder how small the Klymit will pack down after the same amount of use…

Inflated Size: To be honest, I am a little disappointed in the inflated size. I can only assume that there are some minor differences in pads coming out of the factory because once inflated, my pad does not match the listed measurements. for this reason I would like to discuss each measurement on its own.

  • Width: Once (fully) inflated, the air-filled pockets on my Static V pad measures 21.5 inches from side to side, 22 inches at best (although I feel 21.5 inches is more accurate). To be fair, my NeoAir is only 19 inches in width once I have blown it up nice and firm, just the way I like it. Despite the fact that I absolutely love my NeoAir, I have laid there a number of times and wished that it were just a couple of inches wider. With this in mind, I was really counting on a full 23 inches of width (which would have given me about 4 extra inches over my NeoAir) with the Static V sleeping pad. However, I feel obligated to mention here that if I included the welded skirt that is around the edges of the sleeping pad, then the overall width is much closer to 23 inches, although, this is not useable pad so I do not include it in the measurement.
  • Length: Once (fully) inflated, I measure 70 inches from head to foot, as opposed to the listed 72 inches, which actually makes the pad shorter than my NeoAir. Due to the “V” shaped baffles the pad is actually slightly rounded at the foot and dips in slightly at the head end. When I measured the length, I measured from the tip of the “V” along the foot-end, straight up the center of the pad. This measurement rendered the 70 inches. However, if I were to slightly angle the tape measure to the right or to the left and measure at an angle, then I do measure closer to the 72 inch listed length. Again though, I do not consider this to be “realistic,” so I stand by the 70 inch measured length.
  • Height: Once (fully) inflated, I got 2 different measurements from the pad. I found that along the side edges the inflated part of the pad measured 2 inches, however, when measuring at the center of the pad (at the head and the foot end) I measured 2.5 inches at the tallest point.

As I mentioned, I am a bit disappointed about the actual measurements of the width, although when lying on my back, my arms do rest on the pad more than when I lie on my back on my NeoAir. This is defiantly a plus, however, I think that I would be even happier if the pad were a full 23 inches.

The length does not bother me too much at this point. But I will see how I feel about this more after using the pad for a while.

The thickness is also a bit of a bummer. I have to say that without a doubt, my NeoAir feels much beefier/thicker than the Static V pad. At the moment, I am 195 lbs and it is very easy for me to bottom out on this pad when moving around, even with the pad blown up as much as I can get it. I feel like this is partly due to the smaller amount of air-filled space in the pad. As well, since the baffles are spaced apart along the pad, I feel like I am almost falling between them and hitting the floor this way too.

Accessories
Klymit does ship these pads with both a repair kit and a stuff sack. This is a plus in my book for sure, although I will admit, I will probably never use the stuff sack. The repair kit on the other hand will definitely be with me on any trip that I carry this pad on…

Weight (You knew this one was coming…)
Fact of the matter, at 17.9 oz, the Static V pad is 4.1 oz heavier than my (13.8 oz) NeoAir. So, why did I get this pad if my NeoAir is so much lighter, and (obviously) my “pad of choice?” I don’t really know…but here are a few shallow thoughts I had when hitting the submit button:

  • I enjoy trying out new gear…
  • It looked “interesting”…
  • The price was good…
  • It is wider than my NeoAir…
  • It is more durable than my NeoAir…
  • I love to try out new pieces of gear… wait…

As you can tell, these really can be “legitimate” reason’s, although not any one of them in particular pushed me over the edge and made me buy the pad. However, the combination of two particular reasons (the fact that it is wider than my NeoAir and how inexpensive it is), along with John’s review did kind of tip me over and made me give in though…

So, back to the weight issue…

As I said, this pad is 4.1 oz heavier than my other pad. This does mean something to me, as most of you already know. However, I have shrunk down my entire pack weight considerably, and in my opinion, I am at the point in which adding an extra 4 oz to my pack is not going to make a big difference (so long as I only add an extra 4 oz here or there rather than all at once.)  So, despite the small bit of extra weight, I am really looking forward to lugging this ole heavy pad around for a while to see if it is something I will like or not…

R-Value/Warmth
Klymit does not list an R-Value on their site for this pad, although, according to John’s recent review (linked to at the top of this page) he was able to contact them and get a quoted R-Value of 1.3 for the Static V pad. In all honesty, this is a bummer for me too, however, to be fair, this was something that I knew as a “fact” before ordering. So, I do not fault the pad for this, but I do wish it was at least closer to what the original NeoAir is at, which is 2.5, almost double that of the Static V.

However, as I have learned with the NeoAir, this does not necessarily mean anything… I have successfully used my NeoAir along with a 1/8 inch Gossamer Gear ThinLight pad to temperatures in the mid-teens (F) and been comfortable (while cowboy camping). This is what has worked for me though, and is not necessarily the case for everyone else. As well, IIRC, the exchange rate of a 2.5 R-Value to degrees Fahrenheit is somewhere in the 40 F range (although, I am not completely sure of this…) Despite this “rating” though, this was obviously not the case for me. However, to be 100% fair, it is the ground temperature that needs to be considered when discussing R-Values for sleeping pads rather than the ambient temperature.

Regardless, there is a lot to take into consideration when looking at “R-Values” and I am not one to point them all out, (and as shown above, maybe even explain them too well…) The point I am trying to make though is that I am not writing the Static V pad off simply because of a low R-Value. Quite the opposite, I am looking forward to seeing how this pad does at keeping me warm while in my neck of the woods and under my own set of conditions…regardless of its R-Value.

The last thing I want to mention is the air valve. The actual valve is a bit shorter and wider/fatter than what is on my other air pads. It opens and closes similar to that of a prescription bottle… If I want to open it, I push it down slightly and then turn it about a quarter of a turn counter-clockwise. If I want to close it, I simply push it in and give it about a quarter of a turn clockwise.

As another point of reference, this is the second air pad I have in which the air valve closes in the same manner. My NeoAir opens/closes a bit different in that it will fall down on the threads and then it simply needs to be screwed down to seal it off, or up to open it up. Maybe it is just because I have used the NeoAir so much more, but I find that I like the way the air valve on the NeoAir opens and closes better than on the other air pads. Again though, that is simply personal preference and is in no means a game changer…

So, that about sums it up for now. I know that a lot of this “First-Look review” may seem a bit negative, but for now, please don’t take it as such. It is simply my first thoughts, and I will admit that I am really, really happy with my NeoAir. I will also admit that (for me) I have set such a high standard with the NeoAir that anything else is just hard to consider.

However, the reason that I love my NeoAir so much is for the simple fact that I have gotten more good nights sleep on it than any other pad I own or have used. Simply put, it is comfortable to me, and that is something that I cherish when heading out on a hike. The fact that it is very lightweight is secondary (but also important…)

Anyway, I am still standing by the two “reasons” that helped me decide to pick this up in the first place, the fact that it is wider than my NeoAir (although, not by as much as I had thought/hoped) and the fact that it is also much less expensive. For these reasons I will give this pad a chance to prove to me whether or not it is comfortable (which is what really matters, to me). In the end, it either will be or it won’t be…only time and use will tell…

Thanks for reading!

~Stick~

Disclaimer: I paid for this pad with my own hard-earned money and my opinions within this “review” are my own. The above “review” is simply my thoughts after handling the pad for the first time.

About Stick

My blog is essentially a record of my hiking career. Through it, I, and others, can see how I have evolved from a heavy weight backpacker, to a smarter, more efficient, lightweight backpacker. Through the use of video, still photos, and of course writing, one can see my progression, as well as check out some of the places I hike, and not to mention some cool, lightweight gear options. For me, my blog is a journal, but for others, I hope that it is an interactive learning tool to aid them in their own progression towards lightweight backpacking.
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26 Responses to First Look at the Klymit Static V Sleeping Pad

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  2. Jeff Whynot says:

    Thanks, Stick. I appreciate your thoughts on this…it was very helpful. I also appreciate the fact that if you don’t really like something, you say it. That adds a lot of value to your reviews and opinions.

    – Jeff

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    • Stick says:

      Jeff,

      Glad it helped, and yes, you are correct, if something doesn’t work for me, I say so. However, I try to be fair about it still. If something just doesn’t work for me, then that doesn’t necessarily make it a bad product, and sometimes it does… I do try to clarify that though, and I feel like some don’t. Too many times have I seen a product given a bad rating because folks try to use it in a manner in which it wasn’t intended… Anyway… that’s my rant…

      Sorry…

      Anywhoo… good luck with your decision!

      ~Stick~

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  3. Jeff Whynot says:

    I’m in the market for a new sleeping pad and going through the same mental struggle with this. Initially, I was just planning to spend the $$ on a regular size NeoAir XLite until I saw one at EMS yesterday and noticed how narrow/tapered it is. I much prefer a wider, more rectangular shape but the price of a large size XLite is steep. Enter the Klymit Static V with its much more appealing price point, larger width and greater durability. I’ll never be able to lie on one of these prior to purchase, so I struggle with John Abela’s positive comments about comfort (and not bottoming out), compared to Stick’s assessment. I certainly don’t want my hips hitting ground (side sleeper). The difference in R-value is also swirling in my head. I’m not a cold sleeper, but certainly not an overly warm sleeper, so the question is whether or not I’ll be cold with the Static V (again, I won’t know until I buy one). This would be a three season pad for me (I have a NeoAir All Season for the cold), and I prefer not to lug around a 1/8″ thinlight pad to ward off the cold. Tough call.

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    • Stick says:

      Jeff,

      Honestly, I would sugest that despite the cost, I would save for what you really want, and then get that. Otherwise, you may end up buying what you can afford, then deciding it is not what you really want… then you end up buying what you wanted to begin with…

      As for the Static V, I am not a fan of it. For me, it was too uncomfortable, too heavy, and not near enough of an R-Value to justify any of these things, and especially not the weight. IMO, the only thing the Static V has going for it is the price. And to be fair, I have the same feelings toward the NeoAir Trekker, except it is waaaay overpriced for what it is! Also, if I am not mistaken, I believe that John also got rid of his… Not sure though, I would suggest emailing him to see if you are interested in his thoughts.

      My Original NeoAir died some time after this video, and my only replacement option was the XLite, so I caved in and paid for a new large XLite, and I agree, it is a bit steep. But, for the comfort, the warmth, and the good nights sleep that it provides, as well as the warranty, it is well worth it to me, and I would do it again. Now, don’t get me wrong, if they were still making the Original NeoAirs, I would have gotten the regular size Original and never looked back… But that was not an option, and I now own a XLite. The large suits me well enough…

      But, I tend to only use this beast in the winter (I am in the SE), and the rest of the year, I am now using a small ProLite 3. With both of these pads, I also carry a 1/8″ GG Thinlight pad. It can supplement the XLite if it is a bit cold, or it can go under it to protect it when warmth is not an issue. As well, I use it at the foot end of the ProLite since it is a small size… I am very happy with this set-up…

      So, the Static V. Keep in mind, this is an uninsulated air pad, so don’t expect any kind of warmth whatsoever. I say this because you say you plan to use it for 3 season… IMO, R-Value’s are very subjective, however, with an uninsulated air pad, I would probably just stick with summer use. That is just my opinion, and how I would use one though… And for that… IMO, there are much lighter pads, likely even in the same ballpark price wise…

      Comfort is another thing altogether, and I don’t think that one can judge that by someone elses thought’s, so that is unfortunately something only you will be able to decide on. I sold my Static V to a friend of mine, however, I made sure that he laid down on it and tried it before he bought it… He didn’t mind it so much…

      Anyway, I am sure this just confused you more, but I hope it has helped in some way.

      ~Stick~

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  4. Tyler Tebbs says:

    Stick,
    Yeah that is really bizarre that it is thicker in the middle, I can’t imagine why that would be? Your advice definitely has been helpful, I think its smart to always try a sleeping pad before you purchase it. Everyone has a different body type and some pads work better for others. I’m curious about the new NeoAir, what don’t you like about the pad being tapered at the top and bottom?

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    • Stick says:

      I prefer the full width of a rectangular pad. On regular size tapered pads, I find that my legs & feet tend to slide off the edges since it is tapered. A rectangular pad is wider though, so it is not so much of an issue. For that reason, I had to go with the large size XLite. My legs will still fall off the edges a little though, and of course since I had to get the large, it is heavier. Also, it is a bit wider in the torso area, and longer than the regular, so it also takes up more floor space in my tents.

      I can say though that at this point, the NeoAirs are the most comfortable air pads for me, and the lightest. So, I will continue to use them, but I am hoping that they bring the originals back…

      ~Stick~

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  5. Tyler Tebbs says:

    Thanks for the thorough review. I actually have a Klymit Static V but I always just assume that the manufacturers measurements are correct. I thought it was interesting that you measured your pad to be taller by 1/2 an inch towards the middle of the pad. I would think that your assumption is correct, that if you laid on it, it would disperse the pressure to the outside of the pad.

    After watching your video, I am much more interested in the Thermarest Neoair that you have so many positive things to say about. For me, I am 6 foot 2 inches and so having a longer pad might be something that I am interested in. Its too bad they stopped making them. Where would I go if I wanted to get one myself?

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    • Stick says:

      Tyler,

      I learned a long time ago not to believe the manufacturers specs, and especially the bigger names. I have scales at home that I weigh each piece of gear with and a simple tape measure so that I can also measure them. I find that a lot of people simply repeat the listed specs without confirming them, which is misleading…

      As far as the taller middle on the Static V… that baffles me actually. I am not sure why they have made them this way, but they are. (And of course, it is not listed this way in the specs.) As well, it only seems right that the air would be forced towards the sides when I lie down on it, however, that just isn’t the case. I actually threw it out in the yard a few days ago to lay and read a book on, but I still found the same thing. For me, it is just not a good design…

      As far as the NeoAir, I love mine, and I do recommend them, however, I know that what I find comfortable may not be the case with the next person. So, rather than encourage others to buy them, I would rather encourage them to try one out first. Even if only for 10 or 15 minutes inside an REI on the floor…

      Also, the NeoAir like in this video is not being made anymore. (And trust me, I have emailed TAR and expressed how upset I am about this…) Instead, they now sell the XLite, which is the same thing, but it is tapered at the head and foot end (which is what I don’t like). Although, on some random sites, you may still be able to find the old Originals for sell, but it will very likely be a small or a medium size… Sometimes they also come up on the Gear Swap thread over on BPL, or on the For Sale thread at Whiteblaze…

      Hope this helps some.

      ~Stick~

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  6. Chris Gleason says:

    After much consideration I think I might sell the Static V. I found over at Campmor you can pick up an Xlite “irregular” for just under $100 or the wide for just over $100 which is about $80 off of the normal price, and the only thing “irregular” about them is some color variation. I pulled the trigger on the wide version in hopes that the rounded corners won’t be too terrible. 2oz lighter, 2in wider, and a better R rating seemed like a no brainer for me. I can’t get over that I was bottoming out on the Klymit, and I know that will lead to sore hips in the morning. This will be my first Therm-a-Rest so it will be an interesting experience.

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    • Stick says:

      Chris,

      I saw that some sites are selling “seconds” on even the original NeoAirs, and I have debated getting a back up, however most sites only seem to have the smalls, which will not cut it for me… I am going to fight off getting the “X” pads for as long as I can… I really don’t want to go back to a tapered pad.

      Anyway, I hope that the XLite works out for you…you will have to let us know what you think about the tapered ends, especially on the wide pad…

      ~Stick~

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  7. Tony says:

    Can you comment a little bit on how you use your Neoair as the frame of a pack in a frameless pack? Do you make a tube of the neoair, line the inside of the pack with it, and put everything else in the middle? Or do you fold it and put it where the frame sheet came out of? I use Cilogear packs with a completely removable frame so this might work. About up to what weight does this technique work for? My backpacking loads a pretty light, but my mountaineering loads are heavier.

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    • Stick says:

      Tony,

      Check out some of my write ups and videos on my ZPacks backpacks (both the Blast 30 & the Zero). When I use it as a frame it is folded and placed in the pack flat first, before anything else is put in the pack. I sue the regular size (20 inches x 72 inches) NeoAir, and my method is:

      Wake up
      Pop open valve
      Let air escape
      Fold NeoAir in half (long-ways)
      Then fold NeoAir in thirds
      Place (flat) in pack

      Now, don’t get me wrong, this does not necessarily provide any support, but I believe that it does help to shape my pack a bit. After placing my Neo in the pack (flat) I put my liner in the bag and then start filling it that way…

      So far, it has worked great. It allows me to pack away my sleeping pad quickly (as opposed to folding in thirds, pushing the air out and then re-rolling…). It has been my sleeping pad packing method all of this year and it has worked great!

      As far as load weights, if I am planning anything over 20 lbs, I would probably want a more substantial frame in my pack (although, I haven’t been this heavy in a while… 🙂 ) However, I would still pack my pad int he same manner just because it is so easy to do this way…

      Hope this helps!

      ~Stick~

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  8. Mickey McTigue says:

    Stick, Good review. I thought I read some people objecting to the Neo-Air as too noisy. Does not seem to bother you. Can you comment? Mickey

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    • Stick says:

      Mickey,

      Actually, on a hike in July with Brian Green was the first time that I heard anyone complain of it being noisy…and I have got to admit, I agree…however, I blame the reason on it being so danged hot outside that I couldn’t sleep at night because it was so hot, even at night…and to be fair, I heard everyone tossing and turning…

      Anyway, on the nights in which the ambient temps are cool enough for me not to be tolerable, it is not a problem…because I sleep like a baby… 🙂

      ~Stick~

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  9. Chad, just a thought for ya on the “X” marks on the pad… When people return items to REI and they are not directly resold, REI marks them with a silver X, usually with a sharpie marker, and puts them in their ‘member’s only attic sale’. This could be something someone returned to an REI store, this guy bought and then resold. It certainly could still be brand new and never used, but was returned for some reason. Always a possibility, unless it looks like it is in pencil or something.

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    • Stick says:

      Chris,

      Someone brought this up to me in the comments on my YouTube channel…So, I emailed Klymit and the seller off of Amazon. The seller from Amazon got back with me within about an hour. He also forwarded my picture of the “X” to the guys at Klymit and got in contact with them. Obviously, these are markings that are made on the pad at the factory to help center the air valve, and these did not get washed completely off. The offer to replace the pad has been made, however, I am confident in this pad, so I kept it.

      I have got to give thumbs up to the seller for sure, however, Klymit never got back with me directly. When the Amazon seller talked with them at Klymit they said they could not find my email. To be fair, there are a few different email addresses on the “Contact Us” page at the Klymit site, however, I wasn’t so sure which one I should use…so I ended up using the “Product Support” email, but they obviously never got the email. There is a phone number listed on the same page too, however, I did not try to call…maybe I should have…

      Anyway, it is all good…

      ~Stick~

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    • Ahh, that’s excellent to hear. Glad someone else thought of it like I did too…can sometimes never be too careful. I’ve sold some items from REI sales on eBay and Amazon before but I always was clear that it was marked and where it was from so that there were no questions.

      Glad that it was just a slip up with not being completely washed off! Certainly good service by the seller too.

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    • Stick says:

      Chris,

      The seller on Amazon is Outdoor Northwest, and during all of this, I found out that they are actually an authorized seller of the Klymit products. So yeah, they did provide great customer service! I am very happy with them.

      ~Stick~

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  10. Chris Gleason says:

    My Static V came in today and I’m not sure what to think yet. It is lighter than my Big Agnes IAC, and to me noticeably wider. My shoulders are fully on this pad, and my arms are somewhat on it which is more than what I can say for my BAIAC. One thing I do not like is that I immediately bottomed out the pad when I roll onto my side. It only took 8 breaths to fill it in comparison it takes forever to blow up my BA pad. I will probably keep it just because it was cheap, and now I have two pads to choose from for different conditions. I can attest to the durability because as soon as I blew it up and tossed it on the floor my daughter started jumping on it!!

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    • Stick says:

      Chris,

      That is interesting that you say yours is noticeably wider than you BAIAC pad… I did prove that the Static V was wider than my NeoAir, however, it took a little effort, IMO. However, I do agree, my arms are actually on this pad for the most part when lying at my side.

      I also know what you mean about bottoming out when rolling over to your side. I have noticed that the center is taller/thicker than the sides, so I have been trying to keep my hips in the center of the pad when on my side…the only thing about this though is that them my knees hang off the edge.

      Oh well, as I said, I look forward to using it a few times on a couple of trips and at least draw a better overall conclusion on it… and if it turns out I don’t like it…that’s ok because none of my (local) friends have any gear, so if they want to go backpacking with me, it is up to me to completely outfit them… 🙂

      Thanks for stopping by and sharing!

      ~Stick~

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    • 8 breaths to fill up the Static V…. dang dude!!! Thinking 11 is my best.

      Interesting how you guys are bottoming out on this pad. I notice it when I roll around trying to get settled in, but once I do, I do not notice a thing as I am falling asleep or when I am rolling around while sleeping.

      Guess that extra half-inch that the NeoAir offers actually does make a difference for some folks.

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  11. Hey Stick,

    Thanks for the mention!

    Great video.

    I think the main key to remember about this pad is that is has a very sweet price-point. Is it heavier than others out there? Sure. But just how much are those extra four ounces worth to anybody but SUL hikers? $179 MSRP for the NeoAir Large verses $59 MSRP for the Static V. That is $120 bucks more, which means you are paying $30 bucks per ounce removed when going with the NeoAir. For the vast majority of hikers, that can seem like an over-mark-up on the part of Therm-a-Rest.

    Those two little x-marks next to the valve are rather interesting. I checked mine and it does not have them. Perhaps something from manufacturing that did not get removed?

    It is hard to compare the R-Value of the Static V to the TaR NeoAir, who pretty much own most of the patents when it comes to sleeping pad warmth designs. The new XLite has multiple layers of reflective material, which gives them their crazy high R-value. The Static V (I think) does not have any, it gets it R-Value simply from the crazy tough material it uses.

    Its material is a key aspect of these pads. You can throw these things on just about any ground and abuse them all you want, with that 75D material. Here is a video from Klymit showing this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoG__iKhJlM This has also made Klymit the air paid of choice for a whole lot of military personal (special ops, delta team, etc) the world over. They are amazingly tough air pads. This alone can save you 2-8 ounces due to not having to use a dedicated ground sheet.

    Question for ya Stick: Do you find that the sides of the Static V help keep you from rolling off the sides? I had that problem a lot with my NeoAirs (even the NeoAir X-Large at 25 inches), and while not wider (as you well pointed at when putting it on top of the NeoAir Regular) it just seems to keep me from rolling out of it a bit better – I am a side sleeper and roll all night long. So, sometime, if you could jump on your NeoAir and the Static V, with your sleeping bag, and see how things are different, that would be of great interest to me.

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    • Stick says:

      John,

      I agree about the price point on this pad…it is very attractive, and this is definitely one of the reasons I picked it up…had it been much more though, I am pretty sure I wouldn’t have done so. However, I think that the price point (along with the “claimed” 23 inch width) is going to be a big reason that many people do decide to buy this pad over others.

      As far as the 4 oz…to be honest, I am fine with them, as long as the pad performs as well as I need & want it too. For me, this is judged simply by comfort. If it is comfortable then I am a-ok with the extra weight, but if it is only so-so then, for me, no, it is not worth it.

      And yeah…I am curious about those “X” marks around the valve, I think I am going to email a pic of it to Klymit and see what they say. I bought this from a retailer other than Klmit, so I understand that they may not know, or can do anything about it. (Not that it is faulty so far that i know of.) Although, on the site when I bought it, it was marked as “new”….

      I am not necessarily trying to compare the R-Values of the Neo and the Static V, but rather just making a point of reference. Also, as I mentioned in the write up, I don’t really take R-Values to heart…I think that this is really very subjective, as I (and many others) have proven with the Original NeoAir. However, I do know the limits of my NeoAir (even with my ccf pad on top) and I will admit that am pretty close to those limits in the cold weather that we get, so being that the Static V pad is essentially an uninsulated air pad with a listed R-Value of almost half of the NeoAir, I am not so sure that I will be able to comfortably get the Static V pad down to the same temps as I have with the NeoAir.

      A quick note though…as you point out, the NeoAir’s are not insulated like other sleeping pads, and I love this about them. It is obviously lighter than other methods of insulation, and it is not as effected by moisture. In this respect, I agree with you in that it is unfair to compare most other sleeping pads to the NeoAir…as well, in this particular case, the NeoAir IS an insulated pad whereas the Static V IS NOT an insulated pad…so yeah, these are 2 different beasts…

      As far as durability, I cannot argue anything after watching that video!! 🙂

      That brings up a good point though…I blew mine up to what I felt was pretty full with my mouth, however, I am still bottoming out on it when I lie on my side. I will try to fore some more air into it and if I succeed I will see if I bottom out on it still…

      This also brings up another thing… My Static V pad has been inflated all night next to my NeoAir. And every time I walk by it I am shocked at the size difference. I really was expecting this pad to just be bigger than my regular size Neo, but it just isn’t looking that way… Probably due to the design of the “V” shaped baffles, it doesn’t look any wider than my Neo (although in my video I did point out that it is, by a little) however, the length is clearly not the same as the Klymit is shorter. And the big thing is the height. The Neo clearly has it beat in the height too…

      However, as I said, I will try to blow it up more which may make it taller, but at the same time, will this also affect the width even more?

      Anyway, thanks for the reply John! As I said, despite my first impression, I am looking to give this thing a try for a while!

      ~Stick~

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    • I agree that it does seem to be not as wide when you put them on top of each other – that was surprising to see for myself. It will be equally surprising to see if you find it to be more, less, or about the same, when it comes to being able to stay on the pad while rolling around.

      The Static V is the first sleeping pad that Klymit has released that does not have the additional hand-pump-feature that allows you to inflate it beyond what you can via your breath. I was never a fan of that on my other Klymit pads, as I never used it and thus it was just extra weight for the plug on the pad. That said, I have found a time or two when I wished I was able to inflate the Static V just a weee-bit more than what I was able to. Unlike you I do not like a stiff air pad, so the Static V has been almost perfect for me.

      In the end, I guess, we just gotta remember that the Static V is a mostly a sleeping pad that is targeted toward those who are not wanting to spend the big bucks on a lighter weight Klymit, TaR, BA, or similar pad.

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    • Stick says:

      John,

      I took about a 2.5 hour nap on mine earlier today. As far as staying center…I am not sure. Even with my lying on the pad, the center still seems thicker than the edges. I noticed a hump that does not go away along the center. Strange… however, I never felt like I was rolling off of the pad either. Anywhoo…I am looking forward to using it a few times and then take it from there!

      I have also noticed that while it is easy to inflate the pad, there is only so much that I can get into it by using my mouth. Trying to force air in once it is filled is pointless and air quickly begins to escape around the air valve and I am actually struggling to get the valve closed before too much escapes out. This is something else I guess I will just have to use a few more times to get a better feel for it… but after trying to intentionally force air into it, I realized that it is not as easy to close as other air valves on other pads…for me.

      On another note, I found out that those little x’s around the valve are indeed marking made at the factory to help center the valve. So, that is cool!

      ~Stick~

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